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	<title>Comments on: Health Care: Is it Driving US Citizens to Move Overseas?</title>
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		<title>By: insurance</title>
		<link>http://futureexpats.com/health-care-is-it-driving-us-citizens-to-move-overseas/comment-page-1#comment-1671</link>
		<dc:creator>insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Moore has more brains and common sense than all of the Republicans combined. It&#039;s good to see the GOP getting nailed on their luddite and obstructionist tactics, since they do nothing to move America forward. It seems like the Republicans would prefer to live in the Stone Age instead of the 21st century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Moore has more brains and common sense than all of the Republicans combined. It&#8217;s good to see the GOP getting nailed on their luddite and obstructionist tactics, since they do nothing to move America forward. It seems like the Republicans would prefer to live in the Stone Age instead of the 21st century.</p>
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		<title>By: FutureExpat</title>
		<link>http://futureexpats.com/health-care-is-it-driving-us-citizens-to-move-overseas/comment-page-1#comment-644</link>
		<dc:creator>FutureExpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sandra, thanks for your comment. Do you have a specific location in Mexico picked out yet?

You sound a lot like me -- while the realities of trying to live on Soc Sec are scary and have to be faced, I&#039;ve always wanted to live in another country and immerse myself in the culture and the language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sandra, thanks for your comment. Do you have a specific location in Mexico picked out yet?</p>
<p>You sound a lot like me &#8212; while the realities of trying to live on Soc Sec are scary and have to be faced, I&#8217;ve always wanted to live in another country and immerse myself in the culture and the language.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Novelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra Novelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I are researching moving to Mexico when we retire (hopefully in less than 22 months) because, in large part, we do not believe we can maintain a decent standard of life in the US on Social Security.  While health care is certainly a large part of that, it is not the only reason.

I, for one, want the experience of living in and learning about a different culture. Not to mention the fact I don&#039;t like the direction in which the US is headed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I are researching moving to Mexico when we retire (hopefully in less than 22 months) because, in large part, we do not believe we can maintain a decent standard of life in the US on Social Security.  While health care is certainly a large part of that, it is not the only reason.</p>
<p>I, for one, want the experience of living in and learning about a different culture. Not to mention the fact I don&#8217;t like the direction in which the US is headed.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US and Canadian citizens aren&#039;t moving to Mexico specifically for cheaper health care but for an overall lower cost of living and improved way of life, in which lower medical costs are a big part. 

I don&#039;t think anyone is flocking to Mexico just to get treated at Mexican general hospitals and sign up for the Mexican social security health insurance, IMSS. 

Too many other factors are at work, not the least of which is the huge culture shock for those who move to Mexico unwilling to embrace a new culture. You shouldn&#039;t move to Mexico just to save money, or else you&#039;ll always be a miserable fish out of water, even with more money.

It should be noted that it is possible to live in the poorest areas of the US such as  Brownsville/McAllen,Texas, for less than the overall costs of desirable areas of Mexico, with excellent health care, Medicare, and all the other safety nets of the US. 

But it is very hard to live a desirable standard of living in the US on many people&#039;s incomes, Social Security or not, and lower health care costs are part of the more affordable standard of living in Mexico even when you have to pay cash.

I have a book coming out in a week or two called The Best How-To Book on Moving to Mexico which has in-depth chapters on health care costs and quality in Mexico, including a lengthy personal report on my own experiences having two knee replacement surgeries in Queretaro. 

The total cost in Mexico was about $6,800 per knee, compared to at least $40,000 in the US. Even though Medicare would have covered much of the hospital costs, all the related costs of having the surgery and rehab done in the US were far higher than the $6,800 in Mexico.

I&#039;ve been treated for irregular rapid heart beat in a general hospital in San Miguel de Allende for about $50 USD per four-hour visit including x-rays, EKGs, IV meds and cardiology specialists. Private doctors charge as low as $20 for a full hour, and about $50 an hour visit for a specialist who usually has had some training in the US.

My first book, Falling...in Love with San Miguel: Retiring to Mexico on Social Security, also has a lot of information giving specific prices for our retirement to Mexico seven years ago.

If anyone wants in-depth information on all aspects of moving to Mexico on a budget, including health care costs, please check out my website at www.fallinginlovewithsanmiguel.com, and my two books, the first of which is already on Amazon.com and the second one will be out within two weeks.

Carol Schmidt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US and Canadian citizens aren&#8217;t moving to Mexico specifically for cheaper health care but for an overall lower cost of living and improved way of life, in which lower medical costs are a big part. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone is flocking to Mexico just to get treated at Mexican general hospitals and sign up for the Mexican social security health insurance, IMSS. </p>
<p>Too many other factors are at work, not the least of which is the huge culture shock for those who move to Mexico unwilling to embrace a new culture. You shouldn&#8217;t move to Mexico just to save money, or else you&#8217;ll always be a miserable fish out of water, even with more money.</p>
<p>It should be noted that it is possible to live in the poorest areas of the US such as  Brownsville/McAllen,Texas, for less than the overall costs of desirable areas of Mexico, with excellent health care, Medicare, and all the other safety nets of the US. </p>
<p>But it is very hard to live a desirable standard of living in the US on many people&#8217;s incomes, Social Security or not, and lower health care costs are part of the more affordable standard of living in Mexico even when you have to pay cash.</p>
<p>I have a book coming out in a week or two called The Best How-To Book on Moving to Mexico which has in-depth chapters on health care costs and quality in Mexico, including a lengthy personal report on my own experiences having two knee replacement surgeries in Queretaro. </p>
<p>The total cost in Mexico was about $6,800 per knee, compared to at least $40,000 in the US. Even though Medicare would have covered much of the hospital costs, all the related costs of having the surgery and rehab done in the US were far higher than the $6,800 in Mexico.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been treated for irregular rapid heart beat in a general hospital in San Miguel de Allende for about $50 USD per four-hour visit including x-rays, EKGs, IV meds and cardiology specialists. Private doctors charge as low as $20 for a full hour, and about $50 an hour visit for a specialist who usually has had some training in the US.</p>
<p>My first book, Falling&#8230;in Love with San Miguel: Retiring to Mexico on Social Security, also has a lot of information giving specific prices for our retirement to Mexico seven years ago.</p>
<p>If anyone wants in-depth information on all aspects of moving to Mexico on a budget, including health care costs, please check out my website at <a href="http://www.fallinginlovewithsanmiguel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fallinginlovewithsanmiguel.com</a>, and my two books, the first of which is already on Amazon.com and the second one will be out within two weeks.</p>
<p>Carol Schmidt</p>
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		<title>By: FutureExpat</title>
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		<dc:creator>FutureExpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Expat 21. I just looked at your blog, and this article particularly. Very nice! 

A few years back -- 10 or so -- my son broke his hand. It required surgery and several pins, screws, etc., as well as multiple doctor visits before and after. My recollection is that even back then it cost over $25,000. Fortunately, at that time we had insurance that paid all but reasonable deductibles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Expat 21. I just looked at your blog, and this article particularly. Very nice! </p>
<p>A few years back &#8212; 10 or so &#8212; my son broke his hand. It required surgery and several pins, screws, etc., as well as multiple doctor visits before and after. My recollection is that even back then it cost over $25,000. Fortunately, at that time we had insurance that paid all but reasonable deductibles.</p>
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		<title>By: Expat 21</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expat 21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!! I just found your fantastic blog through our discussion on this topic on Linkedin.  I have just linked it to my own expat blog.

Just a few days ago I wrote a post on the same subject, comparing the costs of medical treatment in the U.S., France, and Spain, which might interest you:

http://expat21.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/comparing-costs-of-health-care-treatments-in-france-america-britain-and-france/

A procedure for treating a broken arm in France cost 2230 Euros (to someone vacationing there)while the same treatment in America would cost $30,000 in Denver, according to a physician friend I have there.

Expat 21</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!! I just found your fantastic blog through our discussion on this topic on Linkedin.  I have just linked it to my own expat blog.</p>
<p>Just a few days ago I wrote a post on the same subject, comparing the costs of medical treatment in the U.S., France, and Spain, which might interest you:</p>
<p><a href="http://expat21.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/comparing-costs-of-health-care-treatments-in-france-america-britain-and-france/" rel="nofollow">http://expat21.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/comparing-costs-of-health-care-treatments-in-france-america-britain-and-france/</a></p>
<p>A procedure for treating a broken arm in France cost 2230 Euros (to someone vacationing there)while the same treatment in America would cost $30,000 in Denver, according to a physician friend I have there.</p>
<p>Expat 21</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have got it right on. This country is no longer by the people and for the people. It&#039;s by the big corps and for the big corps! We are planning our move within the next year and it&#039;s out of here. We lived in Africa for 13 years where our health insurance cost about $100 per month and covered everything with no co-pay! And they made money too.
We are just sick of the corporate greed in this country as we have seen all too clearly in the past few years. Most of our representation in Washington actually represents the corporate interest first and then their constituency only second, if it&#039;s okay with their corporate friends. 
Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have got it right on. This country is no longer by the people and for the people. It&#8217;s by the big corps and for the big corps! We are planning our move within the next year and it&#8217;s out of here. We lived in Africa for 13 years where our health insurance cost about $100 per month and covered everything with no co-pay! And they made money too.<br />
We are just sick of the corporate greed in this country as we have seen all too clearly in the past few years. Most of our representation in Washington actually represents the corporate interest first and then their constituency only second, if it&#8217;s okay with their corporate friends.<br />
Tom</p>
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		<title>By: FutureExpat</title>
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		<dc:creator>FutureExpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, you&#039;re absolutely right. Big Business has taken over EVERYTHING here, including our government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, you&#8217;re absolutely right. Big Business has taken over EVERYTHING here, including our government.</p>
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		<title>By: Baja Real Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baja Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to say yes. Many US expats I have talked with share the same view on the US health care system. And this is not coming from people who just relocated to Mexico, but from people who have years living here. I think we could expect a larger affluence of US Citizens overseas as the US cost of living increases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to say yes. Many US expats I have talked with share the same view on the US health care system. And this is not coming from people who just relocated to Mexico, but from people who have years living here. I think we could expect a larger affluence of US Citizens overseas as the US cost of living increases.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post! I greatly appreciate the NHS in Britain and with aging parents I hear a lot of the downsides to the US system. Its frustrating at best and really enraging at worst. Pathetic that such a great country has got this wrong for so long--or more accurately, that such a great country has ket Big Business rule their decision making for so long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post! I greatly appreciate the NHS in Britain and with aging parents I hear a lot of the downsides to the US system. Its frustrating at best and really enraging at worst. Pathetic that such a great country has got this wrong for so long&#8211;or more accurately, that such a great country has ket Big Business rule their decision making for so long.</p>
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